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posted 05-11-2001 09:07 PM
Cowboy Bebop is
without a doubt one of the best series ever. I’ve seen
it up through the third DVD, so I can only comment on
the first half of the series. There is a brief moment of
nudity in one episode, but it isn’t done tastelessly. In
other words, it isn’t nudity for the sake of showing
someone naked (and in this instance, you’ll see how it
isn’t particularly appealing anyways). Rather, it blends
into the plot of that episode. And even though she
doesn’t get naked, Faye Valentine can be a rather sexual
character. There is violence in the series, but not a
gratuitous amount. There’s some gunplay, some martial
arts action, and some splattering of blood. I can't
think of anything excessively violent or disgusting
though. I’m sure by now you’ve seen violence and nudity
of sorts in anime. Nothing in Cowboy Bebop will warp
your mind. Besides, if you watch anime with your mother,
I’m sure you'd both be adult enough to handle it,
assuming the two of you watch anime that is more
grown-up than, say, Pokemon.
Cowboy Bebop is such a great show, you can’t not
watch it. It oozes style, from the characters, the world
they live in, the music, everything. And as you may have
heard, that music is absolutely fantastic, encompassing
a wide range of styles from jazz to bluegrass, and doing
so with sheer brilliance. The animation quality is top
notch throughout the series, with no “lazy animation”
anywhere. Cowboy Bebop seamlessly incorporates
traditional cel animation with computer graphics.
Computer graphics aren’t used as blatantly as in Blue
Submarine No. 6. The computer animation fits in neatly
with the traditional animation.
Each episode is a joy to watch. Cowboy Bebop is a mix
of comedy, sci-fi, Westerns, drama, and a little of
everything in-between. A common complaint about the
series is that it is too episodic. Indeed, episodes
dealing with the larger story, namely, Spike Spiegel’s
past, occur sporadically. However, I don’t view the
episodic plot as a detriment at all. It works with this
series; the show is about a group of bounty hunters
after all, so naturally they’re after some new bounty
most every episode. And often, subtle clues will pop up
in the occasional episode. Rewatching the series up
until episode 14, I noticed that a character might
occasionally make some vague comment that evidently has
to do with the larger plot. So in that sense, it’s not
completely episodic. And anyways, disparaging a series
for being episodic is a pretty weak criticism in my
opinion.
So by all means, watch Cowboy Bebop. It is a mature
series, but not in the sense that it’s an adults-only
sort of show. Rather, it’s grown up, thoughtful. It
doesn’t pander to the lowest common denominator. It
references a great deal of pop culture, everything from
Bruce Lee to blaxploitation, not to mention the various
musical styles. Thus, it will make you think even as you
become emotionally involved in the series.
The entire 26 episode series is available on six
DVDs. It’s out on VHS as well, but I don’t see that as
often. A Cowboy Bebop movie is in production now, titled
“Knockin’ On Heaven’s Door,” and it promises to be good.
Incidentally, Kaiyodo, makers of the awesome Vash and
Nicholas D. Wolfwood action figures, will release some
Cowboy Bebop figures soon, starting with Spike Spiegel.
Presumably, they’ll be just like the Vash and Wolfwood
figures, which means that they will be extremely cool.
I’ve seen a pic of the Spike figure, and it looks
fantastic. Medicom previously released a 12-inch Spike
Spiegel figure as part of their Stylish Collection line
up. It looks really neat, and I just found one available
for pre-order (which is odd, seeing as how it was
released a few years ago. I assume it’s being reissued,
maybe for the American market). Hopefully, I’ll receive
it soon.
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posted 05-11-2001 10:03 PM
...and then there was
10.
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posted 05-11-2001 10:22 PM
Yeah, Cowboy Bebop is
definitely one of the best animes I've seen. The music
and characters remind me of Pulp Fiction. There's also a
bit of 60's Batman, James Bond, Bruce Lee kind of a feel
too, especially in the opening theme song sequence.
Spike Spiegel kind of borrows one of Bruce Lee's
philosophies in one episode when he tells this guy to
"be like water." Spike is also kind of like Lupin the
III, in the cartoony way he moves around. Anyway,
which episode are you at right now Atticus? I'm on
episode 16 at the moment. Also, did you actually buy one
of those Stylish Spike dolls? Those are pretty
expensive. I've also seen a Faye doll from that same
collection. I'm trying to find one of those Banpresto
ones.
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posted 05-11-2001 10:41 PM
yep, Cowboy Bebop is
a great show. I hated those last 4 episodes so damn sad.
Ed is a great character!
Thats all I can really add, be sure to pick up the
1st OST great music!
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posted 05-12-2001 08:17 AM
I own all six DVDs
and have seen every episode. It truly is an excellent
series, I just wish it didn't end like it did in the
final episode. By the way, there's a Cowboy Bebop movie
currently in the works, entitled "Knocking on Heaven's
Door". It takes place in-between episodes 22 and 23,
meaning that the whole cast (including Ed) is still
around. The movie is set to be released sometime late
this year (in Japan).
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posted 05-12-2001 06:25 PM
I've seen it up
through Session 14, "Bohemian Rhapsody," the last
episode on the third DVD. I must get the rest of the
series. So far, my favorite episode has to be "Ballad of
Fallen Angels." "Ganymede Elegy" (the episode about
Jet), "Waltz For Venus" (the episode with "be like
water") and "Jupiter Jazz" Parts 1 and 2 are also good.
What the heck, the whole thing is great.
I did indeed order a Stylish Collection Spike doll.
It's usually pretty expensive (at least $68 or so), but
I got it for $35. I'm hoping it will arrive later this
month.
There is a 12-inch Faye doll, but it was made by
Volks, not Medicom. It's more like a Barbie doll than
anything else, with about the same amount of
articulation. It was released as a kit and as a
completed doll. Unfortunately, it's also ridiculously
expensive, priced at over $90, and it's even harder to
find than the Medicom Spike figure.
Anime Jump ( http://www.animejump.com/
) did a review of both the Spike and Faye dolls,
complete with some nice pictures. The guy didn't think
very highly of them. The Faye doll may be kind of lousy,
but I think he was unfair to the Spike doll. It
certainly looks cool to me, and I can't wait to get
mine. Click on "Toys" on the left side of the front page
to see all their toy reviews.
I've seen the Banpresto figures, but I wasn't overly
impressed. It's nice that they made the complete crew,
including Julia, but it seems to me that the sculpting
leaves something to be desired. They seem to be about as
articulated as an SBC figure, and they have to be
displayed along with their bases. I've seen them at some
stores from time to time and on eBay, but as is
customary with that place, the prices on the Banpresto
figures are steadily rising. Bandai is set to release
figures of Spike, Faye and the Swordfish II (along with
figures from Big O, Outlaw Star, and others), but those
don't look all that appealing either. I'll wait till
those are released, or better yet, hold out for the
Kaiyodo figures.
Wow, a lot of companies are involved with Cowboy
Bebop toys: Medicom, Volks, Banpresto, Bandai and
Kaiyodo, not to mention a myriad of garage kit
companies. I guess that's a testament to the popularity
of Cowboy Bebop.
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posted 05-13-2001 06:31 AM
Sounds like a great
series. I've been listening ot the OP theme on my
various anime mix CDs for months now. That, the fanfics
I've read, and the trailer/music video on the EW DVD
have made me decide to pick this up when I have the
chance. The Kaiyodo Spike sounds like it's going to be a
great figure.
BTW, speaking of Banpresto, has anyone played their
Japanese Tenchi Muyo! RPG? I have the rom. It's a great
game, although some of the characters are sorta hard to
level up because they suck from the start (Mihoshi,
Ryo-Oki, Mihoshi's little pink robot thing, Ayeka's two
gaurdians [I know their names, but the duce if I can
spell them]), but other than that, I highly suggest
finding the rom.
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posted 05-14-2001 04:40 PM
I just saw the
Miyazaki film, Lupin III: The Castle of Coglestrio. Best
anime movie I've seen since EW. It reminded me of James
Bond, and I can see why some sites say that Spike is
"Lupin with a fro". Does anyone know if there are any
other Lupin movies? I haven't watched the Japanese
version yet, but I thought the VAs were very good.
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posted 05-14-2001 05:29 PM
Actually if you read
my above post, I made the comparison of Lupin and Spike.
Anyway, Castle of Cagliastro is good, but Mononoke is
even better. Miyazaki is a master at directing films.
Watch Totoro and Kiki's delivery service too. They are
kind of for kids but they are awesome. There was
another Lupin movie released in america a few years ago
by streamline called the Mystery of Mamo. It featured a
grittier Lupin, unlike the kid friendly Castle version.
It is long of of print though, and very tough to find.
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posted 05-14-2001 05:38 PM
More info on Lupin
III: The character Lupin III is based off of a novel
"Arsene Lupn" written by Maurice LeBlanc in the early
1900's. Arsene Lupin is an internationally famous thief
as well, and even goes up against Sherlock Holmes in one
novel. Lupin III is the original Lupin's grandson, hence
the III.
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posted 05-14-2001 05:47 PM
Arsene Lupin? Seems
strangely familiar. Does anyone remember a cartoon show
called "Nighthood" a few years back? Well, it featured a
guy named Lupin who dressed up in a cape and monacle
going around stealing things, always fooling the police.
Kind of like Batman, since he always had his butler
follow him around with his suit. For Canadian viewers,
it was on YTV and Teletoon. Could this be the same Lupin
you guys are talking about? I doubt it was anime style,
though. More like French animation dubbed in English.
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posted 05-14-2001 06:05 PM
I remember nighthood,
faintly, but all I remember though, was that I didn't
like it. It was about the original Lupin.
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posted 05-14-2001 08:05 PM
i remember watching
lupin when i was like 6, and i just watched it like 2
weeks ago, thin scrawny figured people, just one of the
best comical anime out there.
i don't know if anyone mentioned this, yu yu hakusho
is a pretty good anime series, at least i think so.
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Portugy
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posted 05-14-2001 08:18 PM
Newbies take note.
Kakalotto is working his way up to member the old
school way. If at least half of YOUR posts have
something intelligent to say nobody will richard on you
for spamming.
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posted 05-14-2001 11:59 PM
Lupin is a cool
series, Ive seen some of the movies and what I think
where some TV episodes. Jingen is cool!
YES! I love Yu Yu Hakusho! one of my favorite shows,
now FUNI gets to rape it! Youko Kurama and Kido are my
two fav characters. Anyone else a fan of his other
series, Hunter X Hunter? just as good as Yu Yu, if not
better...
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posted 05-15-2001 03:43 PM
Whats every bodies
favorite Gundam Series?
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posted 05-15-2001 08:23 PM
in reply to CLAND97,
i have to say my favorite character on yu yu hakusho is
Hiei since he's just so cool, not really a good or bad
guy, in between doing whatever he wants. also his
kokuryuha (black dragon wave) is such a cool attack, it
even pumps up his power.
< lack of english comprehension response due to
stupidity removed >
i also like to add Arale to the anime list.
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Portugy
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posted 05-15-2001 08:38 PM
Newbies these days...
You think YOU'RE giving someone a compliment and you get
a rebuttal. Kakalotto, do yourself a favor and read my
post again, this time slower and with a dictionary
handy. Way to go buddy! I WAS LETTING NEWBIES KNOW THAT
YOU ARE A MODEL NEWBIE; ONE TO BE LOOKED UP TO BY OTHER
NEWBIES BECAUSE YOU DON'T SPAM AND GENERALLY(though
that's slipping) HAVE SOMETHING INTELLIGENT TO SAY...
~sigh~
I gotta stick to makin' fun of people...
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Portugy
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posted 05-15-2001 08:44 PM
....Okay, I CAN'T
hold it in any longer.
That's "couldn't care less", not "can care less". If
you "CAN care less" you must already care SOME now... If
you don't care at all you "couldn't care less"...or "Can
care more"...
No big deal, that's just up there with the
"your/you're" fiasco.
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posted 05-15-2001 08:57 PM
oh ok, as i said
before, i am chinese, so the english language is really
confusing for me.
i take all thrashings on my lack of comprehension of
the english language
let the beatings begin
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posted 05-15-2001 09:01 PM
That's generally my
excuse too...
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posted 05-15-2001 09:07 PM
which part? the part
about being chinese or the english language being
confusing?
hehe =)
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posted 05-15-2001 09:59 PM
Both...It wasn't a
very convincing argument...
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posted 05-15-2001 10:02 PM
Back to Cowboy
Bebop... Anyway, just finished watching the last
episode, and was it awesome. It was a little sad, but
what happens isn't really unexpected. Don't know why
people say the ending sucks though.
Anyway, has anyone seen Serial Experiments Lain,
Slayers, or Kenshin? Are they any good. I'm trying to
choose which anime series I'm going to watch next.
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posted 05-15-2001 10:15 PM
Hey kakalotto! Nice
to see another Yu Yu Hakusho fan on the board. Yeah Hiei
is a great character, I think his "3rd" eye just makes
him really cool. Yu Yu Hakusho is a great series,
everyone should watch it, great story,music and
characters!
yes! English as a language is totally confusing, but
im not gonna get into that...
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posted 05-16-2001 08:36 AM
Hey Chi Master! I've
seen The Slayers and Rurouni Kenshin. Both are excellent
series. The Slayers is about a young female sorceress
named Lina Inverse, who travels from town to town
fighting monsters and finding good food to eat. It's a
hilarious, action-packed series that is definitely worth
watching. As a sidenote, many of the VAs from Pokemon
play various characters in The Slayers.
Rurouni Kenshin is another praiseworthy series. It's
about a samurai named Kenshin Himura, who has given up
killing in order to lead a peaceful life. Alongside
Karou Kamiya, inheritor of the Kamiya-Kashin style of
fighting, Yahiko, a young wanna-be samurai, and
Sanosuke, a fighter-for-hire, Kenshin sets out to
maintain justice in feudal Japan during the Meiji era.
If you ever get the chance, watch this series. I also
highly recommend that you get the Samurai X OVAs as
well, as it will not only give you a deeper
understanding into Kenshin's tragic past, but also a
higher respect for the series as a whole.
I have yet to see Serial Experiments Lain, but I will
get around to it in time. Right now, I've been watching
Outlaw Star and Bubblegum Crisis (both the OVAs and the
late 90s TV series; also worth viewing).
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posted 05-16-2001 03:00 PM
Slayers is alright,
comical with a sorceress blasting everything in site
with her powerful spells, a clueless swordsman that uses
a powerful sword, a shrimpy, psycho girl that spreads
the idea of justice, and a half/third golem (can't
remember human/golem ratio) that travels along with them
until he finds a cure. there are other characters but i
am not gonna mention them, just watch it. i am sure
you'll get a good laugh.
as for kenshin, it's a very good series. cool samurai
sword fights. i prefered the manga b/c it explores more
about his past then the series. the series doesn't
include his past, only mention bits and pieces of it,
then completely discontinues it in the 2nd/3rd season
(stupid numbers). overall, it's 8/10 in my mind, the
manga is 10/10, but grab translations online, unless you
know japanese.
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posted 05-16-2001 03:17 PM
has any one seen the
new figs that bandai is making of cowboy bebop?,they
look really sweet,from what i hear cowboy bebop sounds
like a great anime,im not so familiar with this series
but is faye the the girl with the purpleish hair and the
red jacket with the seleve-less yellow shirt?,and is
spike the guy with the really spikey hair that wears the
black or blue(not sure)jacket,just curious,if im right
about faye or spike please tell me,i would like to say
faye is hot,but im not sure if im right.
later ps.BRUCE LEE RULES!!!!!!!!!,had to say
that,now im really done,bye!
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posted 05-16-2001 03:45 PM
You got it right,
Faye wears the yellow outfit. Spike wears a futuristic
blue leisure suit and a yellow shirt, and he has wavy
greenish-black hair.
I've seen pics of the Bandai figures, but I wasn't
all that impressed. Their rendition of Spike's ship, the
Swordfish II, looks pretty nice (Bandai made a model of
the Swordfish as well, but it's pretty hard to find
now). The figures themselves are decent I suppose, but
the sculpting seems a bit off to me, particularly
Spike's hair. And it appears that the Spike and Faye
figures are little more than statues. Medicom's 12-inch
Spike figure looks much better. Banpresto made some nice
figures too, as prizes in those UFO games. However, both
the Medicom and Banpresto figures are scarce these days.
Wait around for Kaiyodo's Spike action figure. I've only
see one tiny shot of it, but it's bound to be swell.
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posted 05-16-2001 06:32 PM
Kenshin manga rules,
I will tell you why with one word: Enishi
The manga ended 100 times better than the anime,the
characters ruled and you got more of Kenshins past and
even Sano's past, You cant forget thet neat suprise at
the end.
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posted 05-16-2001 08:07 PM
couldn't agree more.
that's it.
back to my stupid english paper due tomorrow
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posted 05-16-2001 08:16 PM
p.s. one more thing,
yahiko isn't a weakling anymore unlike the series. he
actually gets to fight in the book, so that was pretty
cool. i think he fighting in volume 25 was one of my
favorite fight scenes.
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posted 05-16-2001 11:07 PM
yeah, Yahiko was
great in the manga. I loved it because he became strong
and he was finally able to fight along with the big boys
(Kenshin and Sano). He became one of my favorite
characters near the end of the manga, his fight with
Kujiranami (I hope I spelled that correctly)was great.
And Yahiko at the end of the series was cool...
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posted 05-17-2001 11:07 AM
Hey Inane ben, thanks
for the info. I'm probrably gonna go with Slayers,
since it's a shorter series. Anyway, what's your
favorite anime? you seem to have seen a lot of series. I
like brain racking story lines, so Evangelion is my
personal favorite.
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posted 05-18-2001 08:00 AM
First of all, my name
is pronounced Insane Ben, not inane ben. Second, I
really have no one favorite anime series. I like a ton
of anime series (some of which are obvious choices, but
others are lesser well-known). Here's a list of some of
my favorite lesser-known anime:
Bubblegum Crisis (OVAs) Bubblegum Crisis Tokyo
2040 (TV series) The Slayers Battle Athletes
(OVA) El Hazard (OVAs) Super Atragon: The
Movie Those Who Hunt Elves Here Is
Greenwood DUAL! Area 88
That's about it (for now). I'll be adding more to the
list as time goes on.
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posted 05-18-2001 08:18 AM
Some of my other
lesser-known favorites are:
You're Under Arrest (OVA) Shinesman Gunsmith
Cats
More to come...
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posted 05-18-2001 01:59 PM
Oops, sorry for
calling you inane, I know it's supposed to be insane, I
just made a typo.
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posted 05-18-2001 06:21 PM
Apology accepted, Chi
Master. I knew it was a typo. Anyways, here are more of
my lesser-known favorites:
Photon: The Idiot Adventures Sakura
Wars Bubblegum Crash (the pseudo-sequel to the
Bubblegum Crisis OVAs) (OVA) Tenchi Muyo: Galaxy
Police Mihoshi Special (OVA) Martian Successor
Nadesico
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Ryoga Hibiki
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posted 05-19-2001 01:54 PM
I recently saw EVA
vol. 1 on DVD. And guess what? I didn't like it. Hated
it in fact. So then I talked to a few online friends who
have seen it. They told me it got better. I checked out
a spoiler site. It made it worse. Originally, I didn't
like Shinji because he was spineless. Then I saw Lelith
and heard about all the religious refrences and whatnot.
I'm a Catholic, but usually I don't get too upset over
religious jokes and refrences unless they're Anti-God,
Jesus, etc. There is only one exception to this rule.
Cruxfiction. I don't like it being put into anything, be
it Xenogears, NGE, X-Men, anything. Dosen't matter what
the situation is. Now, I've already agonized over this
and had a several hour discussion with my cousin about
this so long essay posts arn't nesscary here. I will
give NGE the benefit of the doubt and watch the series
whenever I'm at my cousin's house. But so help me, if it
even looks at my faith with a tiny bit of spite, I'll
never drop my angar against it
------------------ Friendship. Trust.
Desire. Hatred. You all carry too many
unnecessary burdens. Only. One. Thing: Absolute
devotion to Him,ought to be all you need. -Legato
Bluesummers, Trigun
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insane_ben
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posted 05-19-2001 03:08 PM
Legato, I will agree
with you that EVA is NOT for everyone. However, I find
it rather unethical to check out a spoiler site to see
what happens. Its better if you experience things for
yourself, as opposed to having someone tell you about
it. Then again, having someone tell you about how bad a
certain anime is (Samurai Showdown comes to mind) might
save you the trouble of having to watch it. Another word
of advice: Don't watch any EVA episodes in large doses,
otherwise your brain will explode. Additionally, the
first Neon Genesis Evangelion DVD is of pretty bad
visual quality (why ADV Films hasn't corrected this
problem is a mystery to me).
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