The "Infamous" Anime Thread

Introduction by 'Spike Spiegel'

You know, when I started the Anime thread all that time ago (back when I was Legato…ah, the good ol' days), I had no idea it would become the biggest thread on the site. Heck, I just wanted to talk anime with people who knew what they were talking about. Then the thread grew, fizzled a bit a few times, and grew some more. Finally, it got too big for the board. Heh, imagine that. It was a centerpiece for the DBT site, I mean, it was 20-21 pages long, became the only thread ever to get it's own section/board, was the cause of my ill-conceived rebellion (which has made leaving the board posts cheaper than death in the Marvel Universe :) and other things as well. And now, you, be you newbie, elitist, or board vet can view it in it entirety, thanks to Dan and Kap and other people probably. But you should also thank the following, because without them, this thread would be nothing:

Char Azneble, Insane Ben, Nightwing, Bulma 18 (Vicious) - they were some of the main guys in the thread, and never disappointed. Unfortunately, at time of writing, Char has disappeared.

Kenshirou - heck, he probably made at least two pages worth of thread with those gigantic posts of his.

Cland97 - rebel without any thinking ahead, and one of my best buds on and off the board. He kept the thread pretty interesting.

Portugy - for the chuckles…most of the time.

Rusty - for being "Archie"

Emerje - you came in as a newbie in my thread and turned into one of the best on the board. Couldn't be prouder.

Rosy (Blues) - Same reason as Emerje, only Rosy became a pal rather than a good boardie. Though it is fun to see him lambaste newbies with large amounts of sarcasm.

Atticus - because last time I did a thanks thing, he got peeved cause he wasn't in it :) Oh yeah, and the whole productive poster thing…should include that, neh?

Kappa - for not flying down from Canada and choking the holy crap out of me for me berserking at him for deleting the thread in the first place.

Despotes - for letting me do this and for having the site in the first place.

Well, I've kept you long enough (assuming you read this). So, without further ado, I (and Dan and DBT) present my biggest contribution to the DBT site: The Anime Thread. Enjoy it. I know I did.

Josh "Spike Spiegel" Hechinger: Demi Mod

12/19/01

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Ryoga Hibiki

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Ok everyone, I'll make this simple. This is where we talk about ANIME. Nohing else. ANIME. I'm sorry to be a hard nose about this but there's really been a lack of intelligent conversation around here. If you're going to post in this thread, please try to follow these guidelines:

1. Keep the subject on anime. I'm begging you.
2. Everyone's got a right to their opinion. If someone thinks an anime sucks, that's their business as long as they don't flaunt it.
3. Most important: USE SPELL CHECK!!!
4. Do a little research before you shoot off your mouth about a series. No body likes anyone taking out their butts.
5. No hentai including yaoi.
6. Please be civil to newbies/uneducated. They don't know any better. Otaku and anime facists are two diffrent things. Keep them that way.

Despotes, I'm sorry if I've overstepped my boundries here but I'm dying to talk to some REAL otakus.

Thanks and let the otaku knowledge fly!


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posted 01-19-2001 10:19 PM     Profile for ss_trunks    Author's Homepage    Email ss_trunks     Send New Private Message

You know what, I still wanna know what Trigun is about, if it's funny, and should I waste 30.00 dollars on it?

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posted 01-19-2001 10:41 PM     Profile for Portugy    Author's Homepage    Email Portugy     Send New Private Message

Ah...reminds me of your old "Anime Learning Tree"...



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posted 01-19-2001 10:56 PM     Profile for CLAND97    Author's Homepage    Email CLAND97     Send New Private Message

OK, well as far as Anime that is avalible in the US i can reccomend a few:

-Lost Universe
-Generator Gawl
-Escaflowne (SUBBED NOT DUBBED!)

Heh thats really it, Not sure if you have seen Cowboy Bebop yet but thats still a great show. You said "No Hentai stuff" so i guess you would like Maze its a bit ecchi.

Theres alot of other great stuff coming to the US, not sure when but its all been picked up, Yu Yu Hakusho,Orphen,Kare kano and others.

I can reccomend other great shows but they might be hard to get here, unless you resort to some fansub distros


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sorry, i made a mistake:

You probably wouldNT like Maze because its a bit ecchi (perverted).

Other than the ecchi stuff Maze is a great show,good story,good themes,good character design,decent amount of episodes and great seiyuu.


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I have only seen the first episode (which I just saw yesterday), but Area 88 seems pretty cool. It's got a good deal of emotional points, plus a bit of comic relief where it's needed. I just hope the next two episodes are available on DVD too...


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posted 01-20-2001 09:33 AM     Profile for Ryoga Hibiki    Email Ryoga Hibiki     Send New Private Message

I'll answer the Trigun question: It's a very good series and uproarusly funny until the fourth tape, Gung Ho Guns. Then it gets more violent (Demons Eye features two bloodbaths by Legato's TK and the Gung Ho Guns) with less comedy but it's still an exelent show.I highly suggest the DVDs as they're bilingual.

Portugy, I'm honored you remember my Anime Learning Tree. I hope ths lasts longer than that did.

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posted 01-20-2001 09:45 AM     Profile for Ryoga Hibiki    Email Ryoga Hibiki     Send New Private Message

You know who I find conspicuous by his absence: Char. I would've thought we would've seen him rant a little here.

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posted 01-20-2001 09:59 AM     Profile for Nightwing    Email Nightwing     Send New Private Message

Yeah, he would've jumped in by now with some kind of UC comment......

He hasn't been posting at all as far as I can tell......


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Hey cland97 you wanna talk about pervereted?Watch those freaky tenchi shows.

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posted 01-20-2001 01:37 PM     Profile for CLAND97    Author's Homepage    Email CLAND97     Send New Private Message

Can someone tell me whats soo perverted about Tenchi? honestly i dont watch much Tenchi, the few eps ive seen dont seem too perverted.

Some one want to share?


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posted 01-20-2001 01:45 PM     Profile for CLAND97    Author's Homepage    Email CLAND97     Send New Private Message

Also Legato a couple other good shows to cehck out are: I forgot these where out here in the US...

-Rurouni Kenshin
-Utena
-You're Under Arrest

If you want good Manga to read i suggest:

-Inu Yasha
-CardCaptor Sakura

sadly those 2 are the only good manga titles printed here in the US


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Just wondering, who's seen Fist of the North Star. I've heard of it's ledgendary violence and was wondering if the stories are true. On a side note, has anyone else played the NES or GB game. I've played the NES one.

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posted 01-20-2001 02:56 PM     Profile for Portugy    Author's Homepage    Email Portugy     Send New Private Message

Fist of the North Star was actually the first "real" anime I ever saw...

It's not JUST non-stop violence...but it does have some pretty gruesome fights. The movie contains multiple bursting veins, a few arm rips, multple bodies being chopped to bits, MULTIPLE exploding heads, several full body explosions, a few fingers through the chest cavity, a partially sawed-off head, a saw blade imbedded in the skull, a few full-body crushes, soldiers being eaten by a giant, and a squished head or two. Mixed in with a few random people being slaughtered by gang members and you got your self "Fist of the North Star." It's a pretty old school movie...like '84 I believe...but it's worth a watch. It's a fun movie.(Don't look for any deep meaning here...just an action adventure story.)

*Not Christian Family Association's Pick of the Week...


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posted 01-20-2001 03:12 PM     Profile for Ryoga Hibiki    Email Ryoga Hibiki     Send New Private Message

That pretty much sounds like what I've heard.

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posted 01-20-2001 04:12 PM     Profile for Ryoga Hibiki    Email Ryoga Hibiki     Send New Private Message

Hey Port, I just heard that Showtime Beyond is showing FotNS every Sunday around minight. Let the body exploding begin!

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Some anime titles I recommend:
-Tenchi Muyo (any series and/or movie except for Tenchi In Tokyo and DoD)
-The Slayers
-Rurouni Kenshin
-Cowboy Bebop
-Neon Genesis Evangelion
-Tekkaman Blade II
-Trigun
-Dual
-El Hazard (OVA series)
-Gundam 0080: War In The Pocket
-Gundam Movie Trilogy
-Super Atragon
-Princess Mononoke
-Ninja Scroll
-Escaflowne

That's it (for now, more coming soon...).


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Ewwww....Ninja Scroll.

I don't know. It's like every other violent anime, but something about it gives me the creeps. It's very strange. Any other gruesome anime, I can handle. But Ninja Scroll just freaks me out.

Now that I think of it, it's probably some kind of traumatic thing that happened when I was a kid. I need to go see a psychiatrist.

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Yeah, Ninja Scroll gives me the heebie jeebies too.

Insane, I think all the series you mentioned are good, except those I haven't heard of (Super Atragon). And I wholeheartedly agree that DoD and Tenchi in Tokyo suck very much.

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Oh, and for no particular reason here are the names of the Gung Ho Guns form Trigun.

Legato Bluesummers (Leader)
Dominique the Cyclops
Monev the Gale
Zazzie the Beast
Hopperd the Gantret
Grey the Ninelives
Midvalley the Hornfreak
Chapel the Evergreen
E.G. Mine
Rei Dei the Blade
Lenof the Puppetmaster
Caine the Longshot

That was for no reason whatsoever. I just felt like writing them

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Why would Ninja Scroll give you the heebie-geebies? I would like to see that and Fist of the North Star.


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Maybe because it's extremely violent and creppy as heck...

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Here are some good titles that nobody has mentioned yet:
-Ranma 1/2
-Macross Plus
-Wings of the Honneamise
-Akira
-Ghost in the Shell
-The Castle of Cagliostro
Castle is pretty old, but it was made by Miyazaki, who also made Princess Mononoke, so it is awesome nonetheless. Honneamise is a little bit boring due to lack of violence, but the storyline makes up for that.
Anyway, Ninja Scroll isn't really creepy, but rather shocking. It's still good though.


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posted 01-21-2001 09:43 AM     Profile for Ryoga Hibiki    Email Ryoga Hibiki     Send New Private Message

None the less, I'm staying awy from it altogether.

On another note, how dirty is Ranma? I was thinking of starting that series and wanted to know how dirty it is. Is it Benny Hill dirty or porno dirty.

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I really like Ninja Scroll. It was one of the first real Animes that I really watched. I love all the voilence, especially when the shadow guy (cant remember his name, the one that hides in the shadows and shoots out the chain at people) gets his leg cut off and he just hops away like nothing happened. That movie is awesome.
I noticed that a lot of Joe Madurera's art has Ninja Scroll influences, he must be a fan too.


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posted 01-21-2001 12:10 PM     Profile for ss_yamcha    Email ss_yamcha

how many of you guys have seen the japanesse version when gohan goes ssj2,it always makes me cry.


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I'm not sure what you mean by Benny Hill dirty, but Ranma is NOT porno dirty. There is a bit of nudity, but not a whole lot. Whenever there is nudity, it usually isn't meant to be dirty, but more for humour's sake. Ranma can also get slightly repetitive at times though, but so does every other long running series(ie- Dragonball). It's still one of my favorites though.

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Benny Hill's the ****** man!

C'mon...don't tell me you've never seen the Benny Hill Show! ...you haven't lived...


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I wish every day ended with me being chased through a field by three women in bikini's, two dozen old men in suits and a four year old on a horse with the Benny Hill music playing.


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Well, on my Trigun question I am gonna see if it's any good...
I am going to get the $$60,000,000,000 man on Tuesday, plus a really good deal on the Dragonball- The Saga of Gokou (episodes 1-13) with a full length feature.
It's almost my birthday, that's why I am gettin this stuff...


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posted 01-22-2001 12:50 PM     Profile for Sanjuro    Author's Homepage    Email Sanjuro     Send New Private Message

Benny Hill some kinda show? I hardly watch anything besides anime and the news nowadays.

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Yeah.

It's an old show though.
When I first got Comedy Central a few years a go they would show re-runs after school...

It was actually a funny show... Just a bunch a stupid skits featuring the adventures of Benny Hill...

...It always ended the same way as mentioned about...women in small clothing, a bunch of old men and a few little kids in a large chase sequence...

I'm sure they have tapes if you can find them...


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Thanks for the Ranma heads up. I didn't think it was that bad, but you never know...

Ninja Scroll seems like it's going to be a long running debate here...I personaly don't like the animation, the story, or the sick crap I've heard about it. If you like it, I don't think you're a sicko or a blood luster. If anyone has seen Trigun vol. 5 "Angel Arms", I thought what Legato did to theose Rodrick Thieves members was freaking awesome. He used his TK to bend a guy's arm backwards then kill the guy with his own hand (no clue how he did that)and then made the rest of the Thives shoot each other while he ate a steak. And the whole time, the house band kept playing (of course, the saxophonist was a Gung Ho Gun, but that's a WHOLE diffrent train of thought).

SS Trunks, when you see Trigun, don't judge the wole sereis on the first tape. From vol 4 "Gung Ho Guns" on the series s much more intense.

And Benny Hill rules.

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I was reading this thread over and I noticed that I seemed to come off a a complete wimp about nudity. Quite frankly, I could care less when someone's nude. But there's a line between Kamesennin/Tenchi/Ranma nudity and hentai. I can handle blood no problem, dismembering is a bit of a strain, but when guts fly, so does my figurative lunch. I just do not like gore. I've seen Gladitor, Patriot, Aliens, Predator, Scream, I know What You Did Last Summer (1-2), and bits and pieces of various other Horror flicks. But animated gore just gives me a queesy feeling in my stomach. Now, I say we drop the gratitutous violence topic for a while and talk about better things. Like what, no clue. Maybe one of you guys has a series you'd like to promote?

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I have a series I'd like to promote (well, two, actually):
El Hazard: The Magnificent World. It's about four school members (Makoto, his rival Jinnai, his love interest and Jinnai's sister, Nanami, and his teacher, Mr. Fujisawa) being transported to a mystical realm called El-Hazard. Mayhem, action, and madness ensue. It's from the director of Tenchi Muyo, and is fun to watch. I recommend watching the first OVA series first (since I have yet to see the TV series or the second OVA series).
Dual! Parallel Trouble Adventure. Think of it as Neon Genesis Evangelion light, with a touch of El-Hazard thrown in. The series was done by the same creative team that brought you Tenchi Muyo, so it must be good (and it is). Volumes 1 and 2 are out now, and volume three is set to be released on 1/30.


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posted 01-22-2001 06:33 PM     Profile for Ryoga Hibiki    Email Ryoga Hibiki     Send New Private Message

I've heard of that show...that teacher made a few appearences in Tenchi in Tokyo I believe.

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What little amount of Bubblegum Crisis I saw I liked.. Ah! My Goddess is okay for a settled down anime...

Neon Genesis Evangelion is awesome... Ranma 1/2 is as funny as it gets...

Ghost in the Shell is Beautiful (Masemune Shirow is the man... [Besides Akira Toriama])...

I've had the entire set of Record of Lodos War for about four years now, and I haven't watched it all... I keep getting half way through and lose interest...

...It all seems like a Japanese Lord of the Rings anyways...


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How violent is Lodoss (I'm like a broken record...)? Is it available on DVD bilingual? The same too questions apply to the Kenshin TV series. Out of these three series, which should I start. If these are availble on DVD, please tell me where to find them:
Kenshin TV Series
Ranma 1/2
Cardcaptor Sakura

Thanks.

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I have seen both the Original Lodoss War and the Chronicles of the Heroic Knight. Yah kappa, the Original Lodoss War does get rather boring half way through. Especially when one of my favorite characters die Anyways, the first series looks like 3x better, but you never truly see much violence. However, Chronicles of the Heroic Knight, while drawings are a bit worse, have a much more exciting group and the animation is great (well at least somewhat good :P) I recommend seeing them. Strangely enough, Chronicles of the Heroic Knight takes place before the ending of the Original Record of Lodoss War, but changes it and all...well, you'd have to see it to know what I mean


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I know Kenshin and CardCaptor Sakura are both on DVD, IM not too sure how many Kenshin DVD's are out there but i think they got up to like the Oniwabanshuu arc (not sure what ep there at. And theres only one CCS DVD.

Both great shows, Kenshin is pretty violent, im sure you would like it Legato. CCS is cute,funny and well its just like everyother clamp series.

Just make sure ya get the "CardCaptor Sakura" DVD not "cardcaptors".

The manga for both titles is 100% but thats just my taste

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